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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:32 pm

You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby donovan » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:19 pm

So I watched it and there was a link to this play......tough two points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2wgeIRDPo&NR=1
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:22 pm

Spence wrote:You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.


This is why I addressed choose.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:22 pm

WoVeU wrote:
Spence wrote:You are making something relatively simple - lots harder. No reason to over think it.


This is why I addressed choose.


I know, so is he. :wink:
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:27 pm

donovan wrote:So I watched it and there was a link to this play......tough two points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf2wgeIRDPo&NR=1


Cool. But it was a touch back...no points. The defense gained 20 yards of field position out of it.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:55 pm

Ok, you collected with the conditional given, duh.

And kept everything in singular approach...which I took to be the case.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby billybud » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:46 am

You guys are leaving out the "situational factors"...

When deciding whether to go for a two point conversion, the time left in the game is an important factor to add to the equation. Also the relative score...your lead or how much you must catch up.

I have always like this site's analysis...I have linked their two point conversion chart.

http://www.footballcommentary.com/twoptchart.htm
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby billybud » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:48 am

Take a look at this model which describes odds for going for it on 4th and taking the 2 point conversion....

http://www.footballcommentary.com/blunders.htm
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby silverfox » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:24 pm

OK :shock:
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:11 am

chooseaspy wrote:
silverfox wrote:OK :shock:


Surprise, surprise...BSU was the most frequent 2-point leader last season:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/1 ... t-edition/

also see link to http://cfbstats.com which was used as the reference for the PAT data


Before I even got down to this post I was considering team types and situations for going for 2. And Boise State popped in my head. If I were going to bet on any team converting the deuce, I would take Boise. I'd like to see them go for 2 every time. You have to cover the whole field against Boise, it is very hard to prevent them gaining 3 yards. Why is college football using the 3 yard line anyway. I like the 2 yard line. And I'd like to see the 1 point conversion done away with.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:18 am

Did anybody read the portion in that article about "Unlucky U", N. Texas!!! :shock:
Just terrible events!
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby RazorHawk » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:59 am

chooseaspy wrote:
silverfox wrote:OK :shock:


Surprise, surprise...BSU was the most frequent 2-point leader last season:

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/1 ... t-edition/

also see link to http://cfbstats.com which was used as the reference for the PAT data

You need to compute the numbers with the SOS factored. :twisted:
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby billybud » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:20 am

Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.

I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby donovan » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:31 pm

billybud wrote:Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.

I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.


Me too, which of course, makes it not risky at all.
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Re: General thoughts: scoring options

Postby WoVeU » Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:35 pm

donovan wrote:
billybud wrote:Why not go for two when you are 40 point favorites? A missed point here and there won't be crucial.

I would expect more risk taking when the downside of failure is negligible.


Me too, which of course, makes it not risky at all.


You know 3 or 4 of those 2pt conversions could help in the NC against TCU. I just think they should practice now.
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