Obama is President

[Spence]

you and I are a lot alike. I have been a registered democrat my whole life as well. I haven't really ever voted that way. I have been independent from day one, but that was how I registered and never changed it.

[WoVeU]

It would just be better if people were smarter.

But they're not - they've become increasingly dumber. In this election, they took a gun to a knife fight and shot themsleves in the head. The electorate was uncertain about the economy, so they elected a president they are uncertain about.

When did the economy start going south? Right after the dems took over the house and senate.

Here's what those who voted for Obama should know. There is no chance in hell that the middle and upper classes will be better off in the next four years under Obama than they were for the past four years under Bush. And if the middle and upper class can't get better, than the lower class doesn't have anywhere to go. They'll get a thousand bucks in the mail from the government, but that won't do them a bit of good in the long run.

I can not wish Obama well. I hope he fails so miserably that the mean-spirited dems get kicked out of office with the least possible amount of damage done. That may sound un-American, but I mean it to sound quite the contrary. American values, the constitution, our military might, and our free-market nature of letting the people succeed or fail at their own risk, are all in jeopardy.

Obama's ideology is a rehash of the past failures of other countries. We need to fight at the polls to protect what America is. Anyone who wants to live like the French or the Canadians can load up a truck and move there.

Thank you, West Virginia, for making the right choice. I'm very disappointed in my old home state of Virginia, and my current state of Florida. At least the county I live in went 55% for McCain and Republicans won every election they were in at every level of government.

For anyone who wants to argue that I'm a blind republican loyalist - I'm been a registered democrat all of my life. I should probably change that, though, as my eyes are wide open and have been for several years. The dems don't have a chance in hell of getting my vote for any office until they stop their wimpy whining and "me first with the hand-outs" mindset.

Many Democrats like you "once were"...are now Republicans...they are all around, my Dad is one. The Republican Party is now the Party for freedoms and "as close as you can get" to the working man's party.

You aren't Un-American for wanting to see at least a readily notable failure from the ensuing administration. We don't learn lessons from getting lucky...we learn lessons from pain!

[WoVeU]

Except that the consititution doesn't support that idea. I don't think you should vote on issues pertaining to property tax unless you own property either, but that isn't in the cards in this country. I fight back by voting no on all issues that raise my taxes. I don't care how good the issue seems. If everyone did that politicians would get the message that we are serious about reigning in spending. Then we could take a step in the right direction.

I'm in a similar realm of thought. I'm saying if you aren't a stakeholder, why should you get to vote!

People who don't and won't work has grown out of hand. And if their voice remains of equal weight...it is all over! If you are on SSI, Welfare, and other supports...do you support increased taxes--Heck Yeah....Do you support increased Government Assistance--Heck Yeah!

No Land - you don't get to vote on property taxes.
No Income - you don't get to vote on income taxes.
No Investment - you don't get to vote on investment taxes.
Not a Stock Holder - you don't get to vote on corporate taxes.

Then there remains a problem...spending! That is paid for by taxes!

I know it sounds Un-American...but there ain't no way this was the America our Forefathers foresaw. Far too many people don't work!

[Spence]

I think you should have to own property to decide property tax issues. The people who do not owe property taxes enjoy representation without taxation. Well, sort of, people who pay rent do usually get their rent increased when they vote in higher property taxes because of the increased cost of doing business.

This isn't the country our forefathers intented in lots of ways. Some ways it is probably better then they expected. I doubt they ever saw their country as "the" world power. In other ways, it doesn't probably measure up at all. As much as I don't like people who don't contribute voting, voting is an absolute right in this country and it would scare me if they started deciding who could and couldn't vote. Slippery slope. Thirty years ago no one could imagine people getting stopped in checkpoints in their cars in DUI checks either.

[Eric]

I expect Obama to govern from the center for the first four years, earn the people's trust, then take a swift turn to the left so he can operate without too many questions. The man is more of a radical than he lets on. He's been immersed in machine politics and communist ideas. Don't know who Frank Marshall Davis is? Look him up on Wikipedia. Not saying Obama is a communist, just that he's sympathetic to an already overreaching government and a government that decides how to steal and spend people's money.

The main reason I'm a libertarian is that the government has just gotten out of control and, for the most part, Democrats and Republicans aren't going to fix anything. It's not the government's job to steal an inordinate amount of people's money, it's not the government's job to restrict free speech (fairness doctrine), it's not the government's job to social engineer (affirmative action), it's not the government's job to tell citizens what do with their guns (2nd amendment), and it's not the government's job to tell people what to do with their private lives.

[WoVeU]

I'm just frustrated...I see no way to put these Genies back in the bottle. Short of Revolution that is.

[Spence]

I expect Obama to govern from the center for the first four years, earn the people's trust, then take a swift turn to the left so he can operate without too many questions. The man is more of a radical than he lets on. He's been immersed in machine politics and communist ideas. Don't know who Frank Marshall Davis is? Look him up on Wikipedia. Not saying Obama is a communist, just that he's sympathetic to an already overreaching government and a government that decides how to steal and spend people's money.

The main reason I'm a libertarian is that the government has just gotten out of control and, for the most part, Democrats and Republicans aren't going to fix anything. It's not the government's job to steal an inordinate amount of people's money, it's not the government's job to restrict free speech (fairness doctrine), it's not the government's job to social engineer (affirmative action), it's not the government's job to tell citizens what do with their guns (2nd amendment), and it's not the government's job to tell people what to do with their private lives.

We agree on lots. I'm not sure he is a communist, but he is most definitely a socialist. Too many people want other people to fund what they want. Too many in corporate America, too many in the general population. I see nothing wrong with helping anyone, I just should decide who I help if it is my dime.

[WoVeU]

Spence - there you go again, all wanting to think for yourself and everything. The media has went through great lengths to spare you that daunting task. Your job is to sit back and nod!

[Spence]

I'm not good a sitting back.

[WoVeU]

I've got her down pretty good.

But you'd have to see me work a couch...with the best of 'em! I lay a fine couch!