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John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Dossenator » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:41 pm

OP-ED (John Voight)

We, as parents, are well aware of the importance of our teachers who teach and program our children. We also know how important it is for our children to play with good-thinking children growing up.

Sen. Barack Obama has grown up with the teaching of very angry, militant white and black people: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers and Rev. Michael Pfleger. We cannot say we are not affected by teachers who are militant and angry. We know too well that we become like them, and Mr. Obama will run this country in their mindset.

The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, has managed a propaganda campaign with subliminal messages, creating a God-like figure in a man who falls short in every way. It seems to me that if Mr. Obama wins the presidential election, then Messrs. Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger will gain power for their need to demoralize this country and help create a socialist America.

The Democrats have targeted young people, knowing how easy it is to bring forth whatever is needed to program their minds. I know this process well. I was caught up in the hysteria during the Vietnam era, which was brought about through Marxist propaganda underlying the so-called peace movement. The radicals of that era were successful in giving the communists power to bring forth the killing fields and slaughter 2.5 million people in Cambodia and South Vietnam. Did they stop the war, or did they bring the war to those innocent people? In the end, they turned their backs on all the horror and suffering they helped create and walked away.

Those same leaders who were in the streets in the '60s are very powerful today in their work to bring down the Iraq war and to attack our president, and they have found their way into our schools. William Ayers is a good example of that.

Thank God, today, we have a strong generation of young soldiers who know exactly who they are and what they must do to protect our freedom and our democracy. And we have the leadership of Gen. David Petraeus, who has brought hope and stability to Iraq and prevented the terrorists from establishing a base in that country. Our soldiers are lifting us to an example of patriotism at a time when we've almost forgotten who we are and what is at stake.

If Mr. Obama had his way, he would have pulled our troops from Iraq years ago and initiated an unprecedented bloodbath, turning over that country to the barbarianism of our enemies. With what he has openly stated about his plans for our military, and his lack of understanding about the true nature of our enemies, there's not a cell in my body that can accept the idea that Mr. Obama can keep us safe from the terrorists around the world, and from Iran, which is making great strides toward getting the atomic bomb. And while a misleading portrait of Mr. Obama is being perpetrated by a media controlled by the Democrats, the Obama camp has sent out people to attack the greatness of Sen. John McCain, whose suffering and courage in a Hanoi prison camp is an American legend.

Gen. Wesley Clark, who himself has shame upon him, having been relieved of his command, has done their bidding and become a lying fool in his need to demean a fellow soldier and a true hero.

This is a perilous time, and more than ever, the world needs a united and strong America. If, God forbid, we live to see Mr. Obama president, we will live through a socialist era that America has not seen before, and our country will be weakened in every way.

Jon Voight is an Academy Award-winning actor who is well-known for his humanitarian work.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Eric » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:05 pm

I have a question. Where in the Constitution does it state that it's the government's responsibility to institute national health care? Did I miss that somewhere? :lol:

Soon enough, everybody will have a right to go to college, have a roof over their heads, etc.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:36 pm

The right to buy a house has already been in effect. We know how that turned out.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby donovan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:31 pm

Eric wrote:I have a question. Where in the Constitution does it state that it's the government's responsibility to institute national health care? Did I miss that somewhere? :lol:

Soon enough, everybody will have a right to go to college, have a roof over their heads, etc.


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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:54 pm

I just saw where the AIG execs just took a $400,000 retreat. They must have needed the rest after all the stress of screwing up their company and the goverment loan made it possible for them to go back to business as usual. Amazing.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby donovan » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:07 am

Spence wrote:I just saw where the AIG execs just took a $400,000 retreat. They must have needed the rest after all the stress of screwing up their company and the goverment loan made it possible for them to go back to business as usual. Amazing.


And just before they got another 35 billion. I have had it for the first time in my life, I am not voting for either McCain....who has the backbone of jellyfish or Obama who absolutley does not reflect my views. Time someone said, OK...enough politicing, this is how it is America...start sacrificing, I will lead you, but it is going to be a tough four years....won't happen.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Spence » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:08 pm

donovan wrote:And just before they got another 35 billion. I have had it for the first time in my life, I am not voting for either McCain....who has the backbone of jellyfish or Obama who absolutley does not reflect my views. Time someone said, OK...enough politicing, this is how it is America...start sacrificing, I will lead you, but it is going to be a tough four years....won't happen.


Good man. It will be rough, for more then four years, but we have to plug the holes before we can pump the water out and clean up the house. I am writing in someone I believe would be a good president. Hope you do the same. You don't want to quit voting.
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Postby Dossenator » Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:05 pm

I just can not do that. I am actually terrified of Barack Obama and what he really stands for...and for this election it has nothing to do with the political party he is affiliated with. He does not believe America is a great place....he does not stand for the values that forefathers founded our democracy.....he has been filled with anti-American hate from his pastor of 20 years J. Wright (who Obama called his greatest mentor).....he has accepted support from people like Ayers when he made his senate run in Illinois....he would love nothing more then to see America become another France, Canada, etc. We know so little about this man. He has less that four years of political service and most of that time has been spent planning and campainging for this election. I can't beleive this great country has come to a point where the majority of people would actually support a man like Obama.

In past elections I have been disapointed when the candidate I voted for did not win. But I was never fearful of the person who did win. This year I am terrified. I don't think most Amercians know how bad it can get before it gets better. Obama's socialist philosophy (and you don't believe he is a socialist then read his books) will lead America in the wrong way. And there has never been a better time, since the Great Depression, for someone like Obama to get his beliefs turned into policy. So many Americans are like lemmings....they don't do their research and will listen to the Hollywood elite and the liberal media who skews everything. This is a scary time.

In my opinion, writing someone in that has absolutey no chance of winning is the same as giving a vote to Obama. I think most people who add a write in vote would probably lean toward McCain if they were given only the option to vote for either Obama or McCain. McCain is the only one that has a decent shot at winning this election against Obama (although I don't think it will happen). Is he the answer to many of the problems our country faces....probably not. But I do know that he wants to preserve America. He believes in the democratic process, understands the sacrifices our soldiers make, and for this election that is enough for me. I hope and pray that in four years we have some real leaders step up to the table.....people that can really make a difference and fix the problems that we face in Washington.....but until then I can not take a chance with my vote. McCain will get my vote in just a few weeks. However, I think I am trying to fight a battle that cannot be won and I am afraid America will pay for the their choice of Obama.

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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Spence » Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:11 pm

I used to think exactly the way you do Doss. Year after year I voted for people I didn't really believe in because they were better then the alternative. Things didn't get better, they got worse slower. It is time to give the elitist Hollywood goobers and their socialist friends what they want. When the country falls flat on their face, then it is up to the constitutionalists to pick it up and start again. It will get really bad, things will get really tough and people will lose their lives because of the terrorist threat will not be contained. It will be like letting Jimmy Carter become the president today, rather then in the 70's when some in his party had some sense. Democrats have become the party of Carter and Johnson. They have ran the non extremists out. The Republicans have given rise to these liberal extremists by refusing to make tough choices and spending like drunken sailors. In todays government the fiscal conservative is almost extinct. We argue about social issues and engage in class warfare while our elected officials spend us into oblivion. Intead of slowly hitting the bottom, we need to crash and start putting things right again. Then maybe our great-great grandchildren will not have to pay for our mistakes and in some cases the mistakes of our fathers. This system has been slowly on the road to destruction for decades, just like an addict, the people are going to have to hit rock bottom before we realize we need help. I believe Obama can lead us straight to the bottom, with the help of a willing congress. That should give rise to a new form of Democrat and a new form of Republican that realizes that the good of the nation is more important then getting elected.
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Postby Spence » Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:20 pm

I do think that people should do their own research and vote how they see fit. Nothing wrong with looking at many opinions and many different arguments and more then opinions, use the actual records and histories of the people you elect. I wish more people got their opinions from researching the congressional record then those who get their opinions from bad political commercials, but most people are too lazy and don't have a clue that we actually are in control of how our government operates. Most don't even know about the electorial college at all. It is a real shame. Those that do not study history are doomed to repeat it. Barack Obama = Jimmy Carter x Lyndon Johnson. The revolution begins in 2012. :wink:
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Postby Dossenator » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:23 pm

Spence wrote:It is time to give the elitist Hollywood goobers and their socialist friends what they want. When the country falls flat on their face, then it is up to the constitutionalists to pick it up and start again. It will get really bad, things will get really tough and people will lose their lives because of the terrorist threat will not be contained. It will be like letting Jimmy Carter become the president today, rather then in the 70's when some in his party had some sense. Democrats have become the party of Carter and Johnson. They have ran the non extremists out. The Republicans have given rise to these liberal extremists by refusing to make tough choices and spending like drunken sailors. In todays government the fiscal conservative is almost extinct. We argue about social issues and engage in class warfare while our elected officials spend us into oblivion. Intead of slowly hitting the bottom, we need to crash and start putting things right again. Then maybe our great-great grandchildren will not have to pay for our mistakes and in some cases the mistakes of our fathers. This system has been slowly on the road to destruction for decades, just like an addict, the people are going to have to hit rock bottom before we realize we need help. I believe Obama can lead us straight to the bottom, with the help of a willing congress. That should give rise to a new form of Democrat and a new form of Republican that realizes that the good of the nation is more important then getting elected.


I agree with this....Obama will lead us down a path I don't want to go down but may be necessary before it can get better. The current administration has done many things wrong but it is not by chance that we have not been attacked on our own soil since 2001. The terrorists would love nothing more then Obama to win this election. I think they will get there wish.
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Postby Spence » Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:47 pm

I don't think it is an accident either. I just think that out of the current group of people who currently run the government we would be hard pressed to find five people that were more interested in advancing the nation rather then their party or themselves. We have to kick these people out to fix the problems. We need people who believe in the constitution, instead of people who believe they can change it to fit their ideology.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Derek » Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:14 am

That is a great letter by Voight. I didn't know he had that in him, very scathing but true statements.

I do want you guys to keep one thing in mind...Keep you head "up" about this...John Kerry was winning in a landslide the day of the election, and I don't ever remember GW being ahead of Kerry in the "polls" until after the election was over, and look where he is.

The polls are a joke, IMO, and most are designed to "shape" public opinion rather than reflect it....What better way to demoralize the opposition than to get them believing that they are gonna lose anyway. We see it in football, and it's no different in the voting booth to me.

I FIRMLY believe that there is a concerted effort on the media's part to make it look like Obama is pulling away, and I DON'T believe it's true.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby Eric » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:24 am

That could turn into an issue though. Once you give the government so much power, it's extremely difficult to get any of it back. Give an inch and they take a mile and keep it for quite some time. I thought the New Deal programs were "temporary"?

I honestly think FDR is the most overrated president of all time. Basically what he did was prolong the Depression with his socialist ideas. He himself did not lead America out of a depression. Not even close.
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Re: John Voight...OP-ED on Obama.

Postby donovan » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:02 am

I have taken the position that it is time to take back America. No, I am not sure what that means. I do know that we have given away our responsibilities of democracy to people that continually betray us. So, I will vote for those people that give me back my responsibility to take care of myself and those that are around me. There is an old Indian story....I guess who knows about that...anyway....the Chief says to the young man, in our lives there are two wolves that are continually fighting, one represents good and the other evil. They will fight within you until there is a winner. The young man asks, "Who eventually wins?"

"The one you feed."

Time to quit feeding those that are destroying us. Immorality, like morality, knows no party boundaries.
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