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Postby Eric » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:22 am

Who will it be? I'm guessing that it will be a Democrat :(

At such a crucial time, too! I hope that our next president will care about the War on Terror rather than politics.

Anyway, as of right now, I would vote for Tancredo. He's the only candidate who is serious about immigration. I could live with Mitt Romney.
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Postby bama_girl » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:57 am

probably a democrat...unless they manage to get actually get hilary nominated to run for it....i just can't see her getting elected. :|

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Postby Derek » Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:00 pm

I dont know....A Dem does not have the cakewalk everyone thinks.

Im gonna say a Republican....and McCain or Guiliani.

Mitt Romney is a little too religious to win a national election, not that there is anything wrong with being religious, because I attend church regularly. I just think he would get shredded by the press.

McCain is their happy medium for the liberal socialist of the country. He's conservative, but he does not cozy up with the "Far" right, as they call it.

He would receive the "least" resistence from the media.
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Postby Eric » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:26 pm

The press is awful in this country. I watch the O'Reilly Factor most nights and his crew has done studies and found that NBC News was, by far, more favorable in their coverage towards Democrats than Republicans. I mean it was like 80% favorable or something :roll: That's insane.

It is obvious to me that Fox News leans to the right, but it is still more fair than the other media outlets out there. The people on the left are so quick to point out the bias of Fox News and they can't even see it in NBC News, CBS News, ABC News, MSNBC, and CNN, right? It's so stupid.
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Postby Eric » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:23 pm

Wasn't that about Jessica Alba? :?

Anyway, O'Reilly probably has the most common sense of any hosts out there. I think he's very common sensical. I find it very hard to disagree with him.

This is the issue; why can't people on the left see that ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are very biased in their coverage? Last time I checked, it's sickening to air a shooting of one of our men getting shot by a sniper. There is constant bashing of everything conservative or Republican, and its terrible coverage.

Notice I didn't deny that Fox News was right-leaning. I wouldn't dispute that. I don't know about Cavuto, but I think Greta and Shepard Smith are Dems and so is Alan Colmes. Fox does have 4 conservative hosts though.

Compare that to CNN with Lou Dobbs being the only one on the right to Larry King, Paula Zahn, Wolf Blitzer, and probably Anderson Cooper. So tell me how conservatives get a fair shake on that channel?

MSNBC is actually somewhat balanced. I think with their regular coverage though, it is left-leaning. They did give Michael Savage his own show :shock: Oh yeah, Don Imus.
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Postby Eric » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:27 pm

I think we should take care of home (the U.S.) rather than deal with foreign nations.


Of course taking care of the homefront is important. Nobody likes poverty. But would you trust Iran with nuclear weapons? Are you going to let the jihadists run rampant accross the Middle East? Something has to be done with those issues and since Europe can't take a stand for anything (because it has turned into a society of "me-first" thinking, that's why the population is declining because nobody wants responsibility for anything and they don't want to have the trouble of raising children), the U.S. has to intervene sometime.
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Postby Spence » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:21 pm

You need to go back and study the history of Dennis Kucinich, he completely drove Cleveland into the ground in his first incarnation in politics. Kucinich completely bankrupted Cleveland and is the primary reason the poverty level in Cleveland is the way it is now. He ran off the business community and then he spent the city into bankruptcy, then he quit and left the mess to the next guy and Cleveland has never recovered. He is largely considered a nut, even by members of his own party.

If the United States pulls out of Iraq before the country becomes stable it will give Iran full control over the region. It would be a terrible mistake to pull out of Iraq.

You can believe that going to war to start with was wrong minded and there is a school of thought that would agree. But now that we are at war, we have but one option, to win. We need to fully fund and support a complete and total victory in the region before we pull out. There is no such thing as an antiseptic war and we can't win a war by trying not to hurt anyone. You when a war and a fight with overwelming violence. You hit them and hit them until the relent and surrender. Then you start to rebuild. Any other course of war is foolish.
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Postby Eric » Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:34 pm

Right now, the military is trying to be used as a police force. I don't think that the initial surge was aggressive enough.

If you talk to soldiers, from what I see anyway, I keep hearing that Baghdad is pretty much the last thing that needs securing. America can't pull out until that place is secured. And Iran will totally influence Iraq if it isn't stable.
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Postby Spence » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:41 pm

I haven'y decided who I want to be president. I know a few I don't want to be president on both sides, but as of now no one has really stood out for me.
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Postby Eric » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:54 pm

My vote would either go to Brownback or Tancredo, but both are too far to the right to win the nomination.

I'm a little to the right of the moderate right, but not quite to the far right. If you can decipher that..... :lol:
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Postby Spence » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:05 pm

I am an independent with conservative leanings. My personal belief on our political system is that it is broken. Both sides are fighting for themselves. I believe the blame for that lies at our feet. Less then half the citizens of this country are registered to vote. Of them around a third actually vote in most elections. If the people of this country ever want a country that represents them, they will have to get registered and vote. This is our most sacred right as citizens of a free country and we are flushing it away. It is very sad that most people don't realize what this country is about and what it could be.
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Postby Eric » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:15 pm

People are so totally out of touch with this right. Heck, during the revolution, the people of this country fought and died just so they could have somebody representing them. Today, we have people who could care less. These people could talk for 3 hours about the American Idol episode last night but draw a blank response on who is representing their state and what their platform is.

People just take this country for granted :(
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Postby Spence » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:33 pm

That is right, no one will take this country by force. We will destroy it on our own. It is the only flaw in democracy. After a while people take for granted what the have. I don't care what anyone believes really, I just wish they would believe in something. If people don't care enough to get involved in the process that provides their freedom they will wake one day without it. Then they will understand what freedom is and be unable to experience it.
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Postby Derek » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:17 am

Sorry bearcat...Not trying to offend you either....But you are 18.

Fox News is not the mainstream media either. Besides Fox being right, which no one argues, the rest of the outlets are FAR left.

Fox is fair, leaning to the right, but fair. CNN leans left.

You are 18, so I dont think you really know much about media bias.
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Postby bama_girl » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:36 pm

the only problem i have with this war and this administration is that the same kind of "attrocities" are happening all over the world. the only difference is there is no oil there.
i'm not saying it's all about oil. but it's a big part of it and i know that oil = enough cash flow to buy what you need for nuke capabilities. but it gets on my nerves when the pres paints it as a humanitarian effort. as if we are really concerned about saving these people from thier evil dictators. if they would just say why we are really there and stop trying to put a touchy feely spin on it, i don't think so many people would have a problem with it. having a strong hold in the middle east is what it's all about and they just need to say it. especially since it doesn't seem to be working out too well.


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