Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

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Re: Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

Postby ktffan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:05 pm

billybud wrote:Yep Arizona is...But he labeled his information as "Coaches Poll"....he is correct in his post.


Didn't say he wasn't correct.

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Re: Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

Postby ktffan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:07 pm

collegefbfan8898 wrote:He is surely correct. Going by what the original post stated.

Check this though:

Colley has Notre Dame at #24. Stanford beat the Irish. So, did five other teams.

Is it hard to believe that Colley has the Irish at #24?



Notre Dame's opponents have a high winning percentage, so I have no trouble believing Colley would have them high.

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Re: Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

Postby ktffan » Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:11 pm

Dossenator wrote:
ktffan wrote:
Dossenator wrote:Current Coaches Poll Top 10 (as of Nov. 28, 2010)
#1 Oregon - 1-0 - Stanford
#2 Auburn - 5-0 - Miss St, SC, Ark, LSU, Bama
#3 TCU - 1-0 - Utah
#4 Wisc - 1-1 - Mich St(L), Ohio St(W)
#5 Stan - 0-1 - Oregon(L)
#6 Ohio St - 0-1 - Wisc(L)
#7 Mich St - 1-0 - Wisc(W)
#8 Arkansas - 4-2 - Bama(L), Aub(L), A&M(W), SC(W), Miss St(W), LSU(W)
#9 OU - 2-2 - Mizzou(L), A&M(L), FSU(W), Ok St(W)
#10 Boise - 1-1 - VT(W), Nevada(L)

This is why Arkansas is undervalued at #8....tougher road and faired 4-2 vs top 25 teams (with 3 of those wins on the road....at South Carolina, at Miss State, Texas A&M in Dallas).

Auburn is 5-0 vs top 25....that's top (not sure how Oregon can be ranked above Auburn after looking at this).

Only Oklahoma has more than 1 win against a top 25 team out of the teams ranked in the top 10 (2-2 record).

And Stanford and Ohio State have not beat a current ranked top 25 team this year.


Stanford beat Arizona, which is top 25 BCS:

http://www.cfbtrivia.com/cfbt_detail.ph ... on&tNIA=on


Well, they won't be now. Arizona just lost to Arizona State. So Stanfords big win is against a 7-5 team with a losing Pac-10 record.


Alright, let's address this type of thinking. Arizona lost to a team Stanford beat. Does the fact that one of the teams Stanford best lost to another team Stanford beat alter in any way by who won the game? On one hand, you have a "good" team by ranking standards. On the other team you have a "bad" team by ranking standards. That the "bad" team is good enough to beat the "good" team raises the "bad" team and lowers the "good" team. Stanford's opponents stand pat, but for some reason you say they don't count because they've dropped below an aribitrary number set by arbitrary voters voting in an arbitrary manner.

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Re: Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

Postby Cane from the Bend » Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:05 pm

Except, Arizona is 0-4 in their last 4 games.

That is not a good showing.

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Re: Top 10 vs Current Top 25 teams

Postby Eric » Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:56 am

It's kind of irrelevant right now, as I already said. If South Carolina wins, Auburn is a lock to get an at-large. So that's that. Auburn will be 12-1 with a difficult schedule and beat Arkansas; Arkansas will be 10-2 with a difficult schedule. With the BCS' prohibition on having more than two teams from the same conference, Arkansas is going to get left in the cold no matter what. I don't think any other team is going to challenge them for an at-large slot if Auburn wins.
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