Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

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Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Cane from the Bend » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:45 am

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Not a fan of this decision ...

Reports on running game time are saying they're changing the first down rule.

The clock will continue to run after.

It was one of those rules that made college football feel like a separate entity from the pros.

But, now with all of the NIL deal, Schools Poaching players through the Portal {Bama attempted to scoop Van Dyke away from Miami this past week}, and Programs filing into two major conferences, I'm not sure we'll be able to tell the difference in a couple of years.

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Mountainman » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:15 am

Hey Cane…….. hopefully you’ve thawed out from last winter.


Earlier we were discussing rule changes these guys were making to ‘shorten’ the game by a few minutes with the thoughts of ‘player safety’ by reducing the number of plays run during the game…….. and now we’re reading and discussing rules to eliminate a rule that will allow more plays to be run. :roll:

My two ‘cents’ worth is to make any ‘sense’ of these changes is that the NCAA Rules Guys are attempting to make game’s times, ie, the duration of the game, more predictable and consistent in order to fit into the time slots for the TV guys broadcasting schedules…….. and if there’s one thing we’ve witnessed with certainty it’s that the TV guys rule the behavior of the NCAA. 8)

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Cane from the Bend » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:05 am

Mountainman wrote:Hey Cane…….. hopefully you’ve thawed out from last winter.


Earlier we were discussing rule changes these guys were making to ‘shorten’ the game by a few minutes with the thoughts of ‘player safety’ by reducing the number of plays run during the game…….. and now we’re reading and discussing rules to eliminate a rule that will allow more plays to be run. :roll:

My two ‘cents’ worth is to make any ‘sense’ of these changes is that the NCAA Rules Guys are attempting to make game’s times, ie, the duration of the game, more predictable and consistent in order to fit into the time slots for the TV guys broadcasting schedules…….. and if there’s one thing we’ve witnessed with certainty it’s that the TV guys rule the behavior of the NCAA. 8) .



I'm managing the weather as best I can; Temperatures keeps bouncing up and down like a rubber ball the last couple of weeks.


My issue with the shortening game play to fit into time slots better, is that every time they change the rules to reduce the game length, the broadcast times have maintained, and in many cases gotten longer.

Funny how the actual play shortens ... yet advertisers seem to have more frequency in commercial sequence.

I wonder how long before they pull the NASCAR approach, where they shrink the size of the game, and run the ads in a side view during game play.

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"It is only impossible until it has been accomplished." ... then it becomes standardized ...

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Spence » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:32 pm

I like football games. I don't mind if they are longer. I don't like it when they have TV time outs. Could we get a running clock on those. Start them as soon as the whistle blows.
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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Derek » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:28 pm

The weather has been crazy lately!! It's been in the high 40s low 50s at night, and not getting above 80 or so during the day.

This type of weather is usually gone by end of March down here.
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Derek » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:30 pm

Cane from the Bend wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------

Not a fan of this decision ...

Reports on running game time are saying they're changing the first down rule.

The clock will continue to run after.

It was one of those rules that made college football feel like a separate entity from the pros.

But, now with all of the NIL deal, Schools Poaching players through the Portal {Bama attempted to scoop Van Dyke away from Miami this past week}, and Programs filing into two major conferences, I'm not sure we'll be able to tell the difference in a couple of years.

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Not a fan of this rule at all. This will change the outcome of some of the games. And what purpose does this serve????? What's the point. So the game lasts 5 minutes longer.....you can't cram a commercial in that time anyway.
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.

The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.

See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Cane from the Bend » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:44 pm

Derek wrote:
Spence wrote:
Mountainman wrote:.
Cane from the Bend wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------

Not a fan of this decision ...

Reports on running game time are saying they're changing the first down rule.

The clock will continue to run after.

It was one of those rules that made college football feel like a separate entity from the pros.

But, now with all of the NIL deal, Schools Poaching players through the Portal {Bama attempted to scoop Van Dyke away from Miami this past week}, and Programs filing into two major conferences, I'm not sure we'll be able to tell the difference in a couple of years.


Not a fan of this rule at all. This will change the outcome of some of the games. And what purpose does this serve????? What's the point. So the game lasts 5 minutes longer.....you can't cram a commercial in that time anyway.



I feel Pate has a really solid handle on this ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjdB3JpERD4

Only thing I would have added, that I think he misses, is that the number of plays being reduced is going to be marginal.

Do you really believe with the change to a more uptempo offensive league, that this will significantly reduce the amount of snaps?

Or, will it just give the fast paced spread gurus an incentive to accelerate the playbook, attempting to create shorter times between snaps?

How many more stoppages is all of this going to inevitably produce, when guys look to the sidelines for the signal to drop and grasp their hamstrings?

The ad guys will Love that, though.

Because injuries always garner commercial breaks.

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"It is only impossible until it has been accomplished." ... then it becomes standardized ...

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In Memory of Donovan Davisson

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby billybud » Wed May 10, 2023 9:16 am

It will certainly change the nature of some last two minure drives to come from behind...FSU would not have had a 96 yard drive in under 2 minures to beat Auburn in the NC game.
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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Derek » Wed May 10, 2023 3:15 pm

billybud wrote:It will certainly change the nature of some last two minure drives to come from behind...FSU would not have had a 96 yard drive in under 2 minures to beat Auburn in the NC game.


exactly, I don't see the need for it. I can't think of any angle of it that would fall under "safety" of the players.

Hope you're doing well.
They’re either going to run the ball here or their going to pass it.

The fewer rules a coach has, the fewer rules there are for players to break.

See, well ya see, the thing is, he should have caught that ball. But the ball is bigger than his hands.

- John Madden

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Re: Clock Management ... Now It Won't Stop

Postby Mountainman » Thu May 11, 2023 1:47 pm

Interesting enough, I see where Division III has voted and rejected the new “clock” rules. 8)


………..and on another it appears the NCAA is bending some ears in Congress:

The NCAA is seeking a college athlete bill that (1) provides a national name, image and likeness standard, preempting state NIL laws; (2) deems college athletes as students and not employees; and (3) offers protections from legal challenges so the NCAA can create more rules around NIL.


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