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I don't think most think that Boise State isn't a legitimate team. Most that argue Boise State's right to a BCS game do it on the basis of not playing a good enough schedule. Like it or not, Oregon State beating USC made Boise State and their schedule legit. They have an argument to be included in the BCS, based on the new rules and that win.
Nobody (at least that I can think of) is necessarily saying Boise St doesn't 'deserve' the opportunity, provided they finish strong. Boise St still has some pretty 'challenging' games left. San Jose St, has lost all of two games, to pretty good teams (Washington, Nevada). Nevada, hasn't looked bad, either, but started off fairly 'slow', to begin the year.
But, they've only been beaten 3 times (Fresno St, Arizona St, Hawaii).
Boise St, if 'undefeated' should be represented in the BCS, somewhere.
If they aren't, I think it's a travesty, personally, and they might not be.
Spence wrote:I think personally that Boise State is a top 25 team. I don't know exactly where I would put them if I were ranking purely on the strength of the teams, but I believe that they are in there somewhere. They have likely proved they deserve a chance to prove how good they are on a national stage. How they match up with some of the "birthright" teams.
Clearly, they are a top-25 team. I don't think that's even arguable. Hawaii is nearly 'top-25' material. Oregon St, probably should be, but aren't, as of yet. You 'argued' earlier, they hadn't beaten any 'ranked' teams, but you spoke prematurely, in my opinion. How good is the #1 Q.
Spence wrote:I don't look at it that way, though. Teams are ranked preseason, based on past performance or "birthright" as some believe. There is a genuine bias based on that fact, that no body can (should) deny. But as the year goes along the teams that have proven them selves to be good, move up into the rankings and the teams that were unfairly ranked fall.
Ranking is necessarily subjective. Pre-season rankings, can be applied, either way. Remember the 1984 BYU 'debate'? One point of contention was how good Pittsburgh was, that season. Well, they were #3 when BYU played them, and that likely gave them the 'momentum' they needed to make a 'charge' for the NC. Pittsburgh and Michigan were the two 'powerhouses' BYU beat, that year.
Spence wrote:This is a stange year in CFB, because there really isn't any "great" teams. Teams that at least appear to be unbeatable. There are lots of good teams, but non really appear head and shoulders above the rest. Not even close. Is Boise State and good as #5 in the polls, or #8. None of us really know and really can't make an educated judgement on that based on play so far in CFB. So if the meet the criteria, they should go without controversy. They will have earned it.
Not sure what you mean, by that. How do you define 'greatness'? Winning every game is one way to measure it. But, assuredly not the only way. Certainly (B.S.)
