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WVU to the Big 12

Postby wvjohn » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:49 pm

Offical coming tomarrow per ESPN
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby wvjohn » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:51 pm

I think its the end of the BE or as AQ Conf.

what u think bout the move and all the rest
I think good move for WVU still in AQC.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:01 pm

WVU wrote:I think its the end of the BE or as AQ Conf.

what u think bout the move and all the rest
I think good move for WVU still in AQC.


It is a good move for WVU if the B-12 survives. If they don't, the SEC would have been a better move.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby GoBoilers » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:24 pm

We just need to cut to the chase. These 1500+ travel mile conferences are for the birds. Let's get it over and establish 4-16 team or better yet 5-14 team poweer conferences. Base it on something defineable like attendance which has some correlation with TV being alumni related. That makes a way for someone else to come in a nd replace or re-align every 2 years. There has to be a way to do it.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby WoVeU » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:04 pm

Spence wrote:
WVU wrote:I think its the end of the BE or as AQ Conf.

what u think bout the move and all the rest
I think good move for WVU still in AQC.


It is a good move for WVU if the B-12 survives. If they don't, the SEC would have been a better move.


If WVU waited on the SEC they could have been screwed. Some have been too patient in all of this! I was saying when ESPN ran the news that WVU was going if Mizz went to the SEC that the Big 12 was stupid not to take them now and get a few more teams while the taking was good.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:32 pm

I'm not saying it is a bad move for West Virginia. I just think they may have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby donovan » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:45 pm

If any of these moves are good for any school it be because of pot luck. No thought, no planning, no nothing..just a crap shoot because you are afraid somebody is going to get something and you will not....well you can not run a country or your life on that basis....and you certainly can not run a university. And Boise State is no exception..and look where that landed them...They regressed in SOS, money, TV exposure. Pathetic.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:58 pm

donovan wrote:If any of these moves are good for any school it be because of pot luck. No thought, no planning, no nothing..just a crap shoot because you are afraid somebody is going to get something and you will not....well you can not run a country or your life on that basis....and you certainly can not run a university. And Boise State is no exception..and look where that landed them...They regressed in SOS, money, TV exposure. Pathetic.


That is exactly right. Everyone is trying not to be on the outside looking in. Why is it that way? Well because the schools are on there own. Where is this wise governing body(the NCAA) trying to catch some kid getting his lunch for free.

This kind of thing would be a perfect job for the NCAA. Of course they don't say a single word about the conferences falling apart.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Eric » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:55 am

It would be awesome for the NCAA to call a moratorium on relocating conferences. Granted I have no idea how the process works, but we need some stability :lol:

I've never understood the geography of this either. The closest campus to Morgantown is Iowa State in Ames (which I think is 870 miles). I expect the Big 12 to either add Cincinnati, Memphis, or Louisville to give them a couple closer opponents.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:02 am

Eric wrote:It would be awesome for the NCAA to call a moratorium on relocating conferences. Granted I have no idea how the process works, but we need some stability :lol:

I've never understood the geography of this either. The closest campus to Morgantown is Iowa State in Ames (which I think is 870 miles). I expect the Big 12 to either add Cincinnati, Memphis, or Louisville to give them a couple closer opponents.


If the NCAA was really going to act like a governing body, they would call the groups together and create some equity in the league. This Helter Skelter thing is not good for the schools. West Virginia's closest home game should not be Kansas State.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby billybud » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:02 pm

I. personally, don't like the idea of having free enterprise compromised. If certain institutions wish to lump their sports team together, so be it.

I do not want a body telling Notre Dame that they must join an all sports conference, telling Penn State that they are a better fit for the east than a midwestern league and telling Nebraska to scoot back to a conference of plains states. Arkansas and Mizzouri have no business in a conference labeled Southestern..etc.

We would still have the old Southern Conference with 23 schools if no one allowed fluidity.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:44 pm

billybud wrote:I. personally, don't like the idea of having free enterprise compromised. If certain institutions wish to lump their sports team together, so be it.

I do not want a body telling Notre Dame that they must join an all sports conference, telling Penn State that they are a better fit for the east than a midwestern league and telling Nebraska to scoot back to a conference of plains states. Arkansas and Mizzouri have no business in a conference labeled Southestern..etc.

We would still have the old Southern Conference with 23 schools if no one allowed fluidity.


They have already are member institutions of the NCAA. There enterprise is a monopoly, subject to antitrust laws. I guess they could form under a different governing body or no governing body, but that would be a change from the status quo. The only difference would be a change of rules to prevent moving around and the NCAA negotiating the contral TV contract like they do with basketball. Nothing about the way public schools do business has anything to do with the free market system or free enterprise.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby billybud » Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:16 pm

The Supreme Court already ruled against the NCAA controlling TV contracts...controlling the forming of conferences is just more of the same...

If you remember, it used to be that TV contracted with the NCAA, who mparcelled out the money....

It's a no go...The NCAA is a monopoly...individual conferences are not. They are free to add or subtract members and contract with the media as the market will bear.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:01 pm

I didn't know the NCAA didn't control Basketball money. I thought they did.
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Re: WVU to the Big 12

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:45 pm

I still think the university athletic programs are in need of their Judge Landis.
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