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Re: Baseball

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:00 am

We always keep score. I agree that sometimes the score isn't as important. At home most of the time it isn't important. I believe no matter what you do your best to win. If you do that, the score isn't that important. I do think it is a measure of how you are doing. It shouldn't replace fun, though, because if it does then you missed the point.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Dossenator » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:14 pm

Bad officiating in baseball too....anyone watch the Yankees and Angels...clearly Cano and Pasoda were tagged out with neither of them on the bag....however, Cano was called safe. Here is the proof (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb,197210). At least the ump after the game had the back bond to say I blew the call.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:33 pm

Dossenator wrote:Bad officiating in baseball too....anyone watch the Yankees and Angels...clearly Cano and Pasoda were tagged out with neither of them on the bag....however, Cano was called safe. Here is the proof (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb,197210). At least the ump after the game had the back bond to say I blew the call.



Officiating miscues are a part of baseball. It is as excepted as stealing a base.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Dossenator » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:10 pm

Spence wrote:
Dossenator wrote:Bad officiating in baseball too....anyone watch the Yankees and Angels...clearly Cano and Pasoda were tagged out with neither of them on the bag....however, Cano was called safe. Here is the proof (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb,197210). At least the ump after the game had the back bond to say I blew the call.



Officiating miscues are a part of baseball. It is as excepted as stealing a base.


They should not be...especially when they are as blatant as this one. Not even a close call. I watched the game last night and could not believe what I was watching....luckily this call did not factor into the outcome of this game. Yankees destroyed the Angels.
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Re: Baseball

Postby donovan » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:03 pm

Of course we want good calls in baseball..but Spence is absolutely correct, baseball incorporates the umpires in the rules. Rule 9 covers it. The rules say how to challenge bad calls, penalties for violations.....it is part of the game....and when it is done...game goes on.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Spence » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:19 pm

Which as a player you have to deal with the calls. It is part of the game and you must overcome it. I had a coach that if he heard someone complaining about the officials during the game, he would tell you to do something about it. Make up for it and don't ever let an official have that power.
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Re: Baseball

Postby WoVeU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:55 pm

Keeping score...is also one manner of the personal best thing in track. In golf you are really playing the course and yourself! In basketball, it is about 50/50...similar to baseball (pitcher to batter.) Football is much more playing your opponent as the team effect is dominant on most plays...but when you play the line...25% playing yourself I think. The opponent is pretty much there the whole game, combinations on doubles and stunts change...but you know when you fired too late, stepped too wide. I guess you always play yourself in all sports. There is no scoreboard for a DE and a Tackle but they know darn well who is winning!
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Postby Spence » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:58 pm

I think in every sport you are playing against yourself. Pushing to be the best you can be.
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Re: Baseball

Postby WoVeU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:57 pm

Officials should not be a part of the game...period!!! Except for baseball, I really like baseball (even though I have abstained), it is the chess of sports. The officials are very interactive portion. You have to adjust. (They say this in other sports but it is much tougher. As there are many things they are watching for.) In baseball an ump has a rather succinct job and you can say the same thing as you go around the infield. It is very different. I also think more than any other sport, dad's could walk at there in Little League and do those jobs...better than football and basketball. I think this has fed into the acceptable differentiation of the baseball officials.

This brings in salesmanship and style which is an important part of chess. Think about and realize how guys practice their steps to the bag where they often don't touch the bag...but they sell it! And pitchers...their entire goal is to make a ball look like a strike...at least to one of the 2 guys no ton his team at the plate. And the guy on his team is selling just as hard and probably harder. Framing a pitch is an art form. Catching the cheat is an art form as well! :wink:
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Re: Baseball

Postby donovan » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:58 am

If you think officials are not or should not be part of the game....you have defined the problem so there is no solution. That is what we do best in America, that way we can just keep studying everything.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Spence » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:00 pm

If you had ever played in a good sandlot game in my neighborhood growing up you would change your mind about officials. There were some real knock-down-drag-outs because of disagreements over whether or not someone was tagged. :wink:
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Re: Baseball

Postby donovan » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:32 pm

Spence wrote:If you had ever played in a good sandlot game in my neighborhood growing up you would change your mind about officials. There were some real knock-down-drag-outs because of disagreements over whether or not someone was tagged. :wink:


And the point is....it got resolved so you can keep playing.....or you switched to wrestling...in either case....the games continued because who wanted to go home...there may be chores there waiting to be done.
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Re: Baseball

Postby Derek » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:41 pm

donovan wrote:I am not sure, but I will, confess that I have been watching more baseball than football.


You should be IP banned with extreme prejudice. 8) :lol:
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Re: Baseball

Postby Spence » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:07 pm

donovan wrote:
Spence wrote:If you had ever played in a good sandlot game in my neighborhood growing up you would change your mind about officials. There were some real knock-down-drag-outs because of disagreements over whether or not someone was tagged. :wink:


And the point is....it got resolved so you can keep playing.....or you switched to wrestling...in either case....the games continued because who wanted to go home...there may be chores there waiting to be done.


Very true. We actually learned to call ourselves out. It really was a good life lesson......and sometimes we learned to wrestle. :lol:
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Re: Baseball

Postby WoVeU » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:09 pm

No officials....another good reason to play tackle instead of touch. The ground is rarely wrong. Note - touch football is not football...it is freeze-tag with a pigskin!
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