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CFP Trivia Challenge Question Game 38

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:38 pm
by Spence
From Mountainman,

When the first true scoring system was devised in 1883 what was the value in points for:

1.) touchdowns
2.) point after touchdown conversions
3.) field goals
4.) safeties

Re: CFP Trivia Challenge Question Game 37

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:50 am
by ktffan
Spence wrote:From Mountainman,

When the first true scoring system was devised in 1883 what was the value in points for:

1.) touchdowns
2.) point after touchdown conversions
3.) field goals
4.) safeties


1) 2
2) 4
3) 5
4) 1

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:07 pm
by Spence
That isn't the answer submitted. Let me check it out and I'll get back to you.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:32 pm
by Spence
It seems that Walter Camp devised to scoring systems in 1883. One lists MM's answer correct, the other lists ktffan's answer as correct. I'm going to have to do some real research to see which one is right.

CFP's history of CFB lists Mountainman's answer right as well. I am sure the answer is out there, I just have to find it. I get back on this question a little later.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:47 pm
by ktffan
Touchdown 4 points; field goal 5 points;
extra points 4 points

Safety 1 point

What confuses me is that there is scoring listed for the 1882 season:

Touchdown 2 points; field goal 5 points; extra
points 4 points; Safety 1 point

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:57 pm
by Spence
Walter Camp devised both systems. The one in 1882 was deemed to complicated. :? so he changed it in 1883. Your second answer is right and I'm quitting the topic right here. There is a lot of confusion on this topic even from the historical people.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:00 pm
by mountainman
I'll bet that drove the Vegas boys crazy back in 1883. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:14 pm
by ktffan
Spence wrote:Walter Camp devised both systems. The one in 1882 was deemed to complicated. :? so he changed it in 1883. Your second answer is right and I'm quitting the topic right here. There is a lot of confusion on this topic even from the historical people.


That's not even to mention the histerical people.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:18 pm
by Spence
If it is an attempted field goal it counts as 1, I am not sure but I think it counts as one on a two point conversion as well.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:33 pm
by ktffan
HuskerMoon wrote:You know that leads me to a good question to ask here.

Now, I haven't really seen this happen, but I've seen it almost happen. I just want to know for myself.

On a PAT or 2 Point attempt, if there is fumble or interception returned all the way to the opposite endzone, how much is it worth?

I have heard both 2 and 1

Is it one if it's a PAT attempt and two if it's a 2 pt conversion attempt?

Or is it a standard 1 or 2?


During an extra point attempt, touchdowns are worth 2, field goals are worth one and safeties are worth 1. So a turnover returned the distance goes for 2.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:28 pm
by mountainman
I believe that on a PAT attempt if the kick is blocked and returned by the defense to the opponents endzone it's worth 2 points .... as is an intercepted pass on a PAT attempt .... as is a fumble, provided the fumble is recovered in the field of play.

Might want to verify that though ..... :?

P.S. I'm a little confused with field goal worth 1, help me out here. :?

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:48 pm
by Spence
P.S. I'm a little confused with field goal worth 1, help me out here.


Brain cramp.

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:11 pm
by mountainman
Probably that and MGD. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:16 pm
by Spence
I checked the time that I posted and yes that very well could have had something to do with it. :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:20 pm
by mountainman
I was talking about myself. :lol: