Famous NCAA Dynasties

[ktffan]

Give me any data or any link backing up your Percentage of Bowl teams played...etc...yada yada

Non-conference record against bowl teams 1990-2000:

Big Ten (79-102-4)--0.438
ACC (60-78-2)--0.436


Non-conference record against majors:

Big Ten (140-126-5)--0.526
ACC (111-102-3)--0.521


Bowl Records:

Big Ten (32-31-1)--0.508
ACC (24-25-1)--0.490

Winning percentages against I-A teams:

Big Ten (269-153-6)--0.636
ACC (186-124-4)--0.599

[billybud]

Michigan played 22 ranked conference opponents...I went through the schedule year by year....thats a fact jack

Head to Head according to Football.Stassen.co/records..

ACC vs Big Ten...1990 to 2000

Clemson...1-0
FSU..........2-0
NC...........2-0
NC St.......4-2
Wake.......2-2
Va............0-2
Duke........2-5
Maryland...0-2

They are counting FSU/Mich in 1991

[Spence]

Actually, I am a Michigan fan...

1...because they hate Ohio State

2...my Dad was a Mich grad who despised OSU and I had to be a Michigan fan (although I went to FSU). Dad has now passed on but watching the Maize and Blue during the season renews that bond that death really doesn't diminish. I miss the old man especially in the fall.

If your Dad hated Ohio State he was a true Michigan Man. Mine was a Ohio State guy, he is gone also. Glad to see he has someone to argue the 10 year war with up there.


As a conference the Big 10 is 174-98-5 against the ACC

The B-10 "big 3" against the ACC are as follows...

Ohio State 14-7 lifetime including 3 games with Fla. St. ('81, '82, '97) where they owned Ohio State.

Michigan 23-4 including 6 wins against Duke

Penn State 89-21 lifetime against the ACC although most of the games were before Penn St. joined the B-10.

All these stats are vs. teams currently both conferences. The source I used is college football warehouse.

[ktffan]

Michigan played 22 ranked conference opponents...I went through the schedule year by year....thats a fact jack

Ok, which of these 28 teams didn't finish ranked?

19901013 Michigan St.
19901020 Iowa
19901110 Illinois
19911005 Iowa
19921121 Ohio St.
19931016 Penn St.
19931030 Wisconsin
19931120 Ohio St.
19941015 Penn St.
19941119 Ohio St.
19951007 Northwestern
19951118 Penn St.
19951125 Ohio St.
19961005 Northwestern
19961116 Penn St.
19961123 Ohio St.
19971108 Penn St.
19971122 Ohio St.
19981107 Penn St.
19981114 Wisconsin
19981121 Ohio St.
19990925 Wisconsin
19991002 Purdue
19991009 Michigan St.
19991023 Illinois
19991113 Penn St.
20000930 Wisconsin
20001007 Purdue

They are counting FSU/Mich in 1991

Try doing it the other way, selecting Big Ten teams.

The Big Ten won the head-to-head 13-12. While insignificant, the edge still goes to the Big Ten.

[billybud]

Post your source link for your data...

Of the "Winningest Teams of the 1990's"...three of the top 25 were ACC (Five of the current members make that list)...

Three Big Ten teams make the list.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipsa/A0774933.html

The winningest teams of the 2000's have five current ACC teams vs three B-10
http://www.kickoffzone.com/default.aspx ... rticle=154

[ktffan]

As a conference the Big 10 is 174-98-5 against the ACC

That's a make up of the current membership vs the current membership. I'm talking only about teams that were actually in the conference and contributing to it. In that respect, the Big Ten leads 62-43-2.

[Spence]

That's a make up of the current membership vs the current membership. I'm talking only about teams that were actually in the conference and contributing to it. In that respect, the Big Ten leads 62-43-2.

That would be correct.

[ktffan]

Post your source link for your data...

Go to each schools athletic site and look it up there.

[Spence]

Go to each schools athletic site and look it up there.

I can't speak for other athletic sites, but Ohio State's athletic site isn't very good on stats. It has a lot wrong on it.

[ktffan]

I can't speak for other athletic sites, but Ohio State's athletic site isn't very good on stats. It has a lot wrong on it.

What's "right" then? Ohio State's only problems in their yearly schedule list is that they have a few home/visitors messed up. The detail section of most teams site are not only mostly accurate, they are the official record.

[billybud]

My apologies...I think I subtracted twice...28 is correct

[Spence]

I can't speak for other athletic sites, but Ohio State's athletic site isn't very good on stats. It has a lot wrong on it.

What's "right" then? Ohio State's only problems in their yearly schedule list is that they have a few home/visitors messed up. The detail section of most teams site are not only mostly accurate, they are the official record.

Ohio State's athletic department does keep accurate stats, it just that the athletic site isn't very well done. There are several Buckeye historians that do a much better job of publishing the history and stats of Ohio State.

Buckeye fans have been on the athletic dept. to correct the mistakes, hopefully they will care enough to get it done one of these days.

[billybud]

For the 90's...they rank the ACC above the B-10....

http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/boar ... eply&t=345

[colorado_loves_football]

Found something of note in Billybud's posting.

3 teams were ranked in the top-12 in the 2000s. Boise St.(#4), Toledo(#11) and TCU(#12). Louisville (#10) was the highest ranked Big East representative. Marshall (#25) was the highest ranked C-USA representative.

A closer examination also reveals other 'non-BCS' teams listed among the 'best' in the 2000s .

Fresno St. (21), Miami, OH (22), N. Illinois (23), and Utah (23).

Another point of note is how each confernece (with the exception of the Sun-Belt) is represented, 'multiple' times (2, anyway). I'm including Louisville as a 'C-USA' representative, they were C-USA, most of the 2000s.

All this weighed together, suggests that the 'competitive' gap is lessening.
I'm sure someone could post a list that likely doesn't include those teams.
Nevertheless, it is one way to assess how teams compare relative to each other.

[Spence]

For the 90's...they rank the ACC above the B-10....

I don't know if I agree completely, but the B-10 as a whole wasn't very good in the 1990's. Ohio State in the Cooper era was vastly over-rated, that is why he isn't here anymore.