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Football in 100 years, has never officially declared a national champ...the NCAA still doesn't...AP does, BCS does...so do about a dozen other sources have or still declare a national champ....Is BCS a more valid declarer than AP? AP and BCS, Coach's, etc can declare NC's and any team so declared ha...

And then you'd have VT...which whipped (end of year AP rankings ) West Virginia #5, Louisville #19, BC #18, while losing two games to also ranked FSU and Miami... Should a champ of a didn't play anybody, didn't beat anybody conference go to a BCS over a team that beat three teams ranked in the final...

Re TCU and Oregon, Iowa, et al...Sagarin pretty well tracks the Vegas line...TCU would be seen as a close match with any of the teams that I mentioned... They, last year were TCU's peers....we'll all have our opinion, but TCU didn't play anybody much and the two best teams that they played, BYU and ...

KTFFAN...you must be a geezer like me if you remember the kick....I turn 60 this year...been a good life... HS grad, USMC. 1965...later (on Uncle) Univ of West Fla and FSU...have just early retired and am having a ball...been going to FSU games since Peterson was the coach...my wife and I had our fi...

It's difficult to compare teams in such different environments...I think that Sagarin's "Predictor Score" is about the best that we have to deal with..

Last year, Sagarin had TCU about on the level of Minnesota, Iowa, Oregon, Florida.....good teams all, but not BCS Bowl teams.

Colorado...I am not specifically addressing any one post...I don't think I know your proposal...I am expressing my thoughts about mid majors.. IT AIN'T ALWAYS ABOUT YOU...lol I say that if you haven't beaten the very good teams (ranked at end of year, or at least Top 30), you haven't proven that you...

ACC CONFERENCE % WINS FSU-------.903 VT---------.824 MIAMI-----.688 CLEM------.646 MARYL-----.545 GT---------.529 NC---------.528 NC ST-----.520 VA---------.419 DUKE------.387 WAKE------.282 Distorted somewhat by conference changes...FSU has 14 years of data, Miami and VT only two, GT has 23 years a...

You remember Dempsey...he had an advantage..he was born with half a foot and his shoe was built mallet ended like a #2 wood.

How many NC chances has FSU lost on a kicker's foot?...I despair at every place kick....it's a curse..

Even against Penn State...the game doesn't go to OT if FSU's kicker doesn't miss the only PAT he has ever missed in his college career...

Oh good grief....I guess if Georgia had been a serious conference rival to Florida, I might argue with you....but I grant you that the "world's largest cucktail party" was not as important to Florida than the Gator's match-up with non-conference FSU ( regardless of Spurrier's constant affirmation th...

Oh Yeah...Temple has a IA football team? My bad...LOL Poor Ol Temple was beaten by everybody, including Akron before the Big East kicked them out....Poor Temple...not good even enough for the Big East. I also missed that Wisconsin went 1-10 in 90...losing to Temple..boy that Badger team stunk like a...

Harrr!! Ol Billybud was a whaler and crossed paths with litlle Bobby Louis Stevenson while in the South Pacific....Bobby Louis sniffed at my "mentor", Herman Melville. They didn't get along. But Ol Billybud loves a riddle.... Could it be that Bobby Louis created this great character that had vast mo...

I have little to no sympathy for mid-majors crying for BCS bowl inclusion...they don't play on the same level. Akron...won the MAC last year and is 0-16 against BCS since 1990 Boise St...everybody's darling...is 2-16 against BCS teams since 1990. When a mid major has a great year, they are usually o...

Georgia Tech, in 12 ACC matches, has never beaten FSU. But, Georgia Tech has played the Noles to a fair thee well several times....The Wreck, in 2003, cost me $89 (the cost of a new remote for my big screen) in the 14-13 near FSU loss.

I like Tech to play ND tough....

Don't know why the Florida dominance over Georgia since 1990...(the Gators were good, I'll grant)...but Florida is 14-2 in the last 16 matched with Georgia...very dominant. In the same period...Florida is 7-10-1 against FSU.(two bowl games additional to regular season). I think, that since 1990, the...